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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.


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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.14034

>>14017
I recall seeing similar discussions brought up before. Some of the reasons for decreasing sales:
>bulky magazine that's difficult to store
>most people would only read a few series, so there's no reason to get the mag when you can read them online
Along with how the reiwa WSJ lineup is just weak. No massive flagships like OP, Bleach, Naruto etc. to draw readers into reading other series. But watch Shueisha make this decline a piracy issue instead.

 No.14036

>>14034
>most people would only read a few series, so there's no reason to get the mag when you can read them online
True, but magazines are for discovering new series.

 No.14039

>>14036
I've seen some sentiment about RETVRN to browsing for discovery's sake but I don't think a lot of people are going to make themselves do that, especially younger ones.
>>14034
It's crazy that there really is nothing to fill those shoes. I love Kagurabachi but I don't think it's gonna get to the heights of any previous flagship.



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 No.3972[Reply]

For discussing networking and general observation on places like tumblr, twitter, bobaboard, etc.

>How is the current fandom climate on your platform?

>Tips for surviving the platform and making network with other fujos?
>Current feelings on social media/forums/discords?
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>>14030
I liked the A Cruel God Reigns and Houseki no Kuni storytimes that happened somewhat recently (last 2 years maybe?). I tried to keep up with the MHA one a little while back but sharing the same air as the modern shonen /a/non isn't particularly great.

 No.14035

>>14033
So 2 years ago was still okay…

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>>14035
4chan hasn't been "okay" since about 2015 but sometimes the stars align and on a day you feel like looking at the catalog there is something worth your time. I miss /co/ storytimes the most.



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why do people always claim fujoshi hate female characters? most of the fujos i hang/hung with had tons of female favorites and only ever despised women that didn't do anything (orihime of bleach, for example).

i don't get the whole yumejo vs. fujo war either, is that just a psyop by moids?
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 No.12001

>>11808
>>11833
>>11969
In my experience, a lot of the "love" yumes and generic hetshippers have for female characters is entirely performative and most of their time goes into weaponizing them to moralize against fujos rather than actually enjoying the characters themselves. Like they claim to be the biggest fan and protector of female character x, but in the end the only time they talk about her is just fluff without substance or to whine about fujos not respecting her supposedly amazing writing. Most fujos are either indifferent or at least respectful towards female characters, no great enthusiasm one way or another because their focus is on the male ship, yet pixel feminists use their indifference as proof of their hatred. I specifically can't stand it when they do this to female characters that are explicitly created by men for male coom and argue that it doesn't matter because the character in question is "totally like them IRL" so hating her means you're hating her personally and thus all women.

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Even when shallow and badly-written, male characters can be still attractive (so provide fanservice). Shallow and badly-written female characters are of no use and so a waste of space/screentime.

 No.14037

>>13984
You could say the same but reversed….



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 No.11021[Reply]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got

Old thread >>79
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 No.5538[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Self-inserting has always been a thing, however, more than ever has it not taken in an almost parasitic and viral infestation in general fandom and the BL scene.

Whether it's the need to make gay ships het by adding a vagina/transing, or blatantly stating they see non-insert ships as cucking, let's talk about self-inserting and how bad it's gotten.
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 No.13981

>>13979
I'm trying to think about what manga you are talking about, and my brain is going to Hikaru lol

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>>13981
Nah it's Servamp, if there was a yume who acted like this in the Hikaru fandom and no one immediately shut her down with "It was originally marketed/tagged as a BL", "One of the MCs is gay from the beginning", and "You're homophobic" modern fujoshi spaces are doomed. I'm exaggerating when I say she's infamous because it is only known to me and 30 other people lol but she comments under other people's posts saying people are "abrasive" that their ship didn't become canon (no one's did, dip-shit) and says she hates her husbando's main ship bc it's adult x minor and everyone who ships it is gross and conveniently ignores the creator of her husbando literally has made BL doujinshi of a middle schooler (ish) being in a relationship with someone in their 20s lmao. She's reblogged all the posts she could find criticizing the fandom and there's barely any of them and so she's stuck reblogging official art where her husbando is literally holding hands with another guy.

 No.14031

>>13964
The non-sharing culture is weird af and causes them to constantly tweak out over everything.



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 No.13840[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread:
>>12715

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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>>14025 Thank you so much kind stranger ♥ you're right, I should stop letting this get to me and keep on posting about my ship. Even if no one likes it, I'll always keep making content about them.

Funny thing of you mentioning Asian fans getting into your ship is I have the exact same thing as well. They love my OTP and they're always one of the first ones to comment down on my art I make of my ship. So I'm happy that even though I love an unpopular ship, glad that there's people from around the world that also love the ship.

I hope your niche otp gains popularity and followers someday, kind stranger. It's very sweet of you that you inspired people to get into your otp.

 No.14028

>>14027
Gasp! Are you the Daken x Johnny queen from the west thread? I love your ship too! I wish Marvel wasn't so retarded and brought back Daken with a competent writer like Liu.

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>>14028 Yes! That's me!

I'm so so glad to find another Daken × Johnny shipper here on Fujochan! Happy to see another woman of culture too!

And same, ughh, every ship he has nowadays suck ass and they don't have the same excitement Daken and Johnny had. God bless the fujo queen, Marjorie Liu. Without her, I don't think this ship would ever exist.

But likewise, very happy to see another Daken x Johnny shipper in the wild!



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 No.429[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I believe we need containment thread for NOTP posting.
Post any NOTP that you fucking hate the reason can be anything canon, position, fans, etc. be petty as you want.
feel free to bash them or venting about it.
Dont visit this thread if you cant stand seeing your favorite ship get dunked.
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>>13782
>>13787
NTA and I'm probably wrong but, Ren and Akechi are fundamentally based on the trope of "Phantom Thief vs Detective", although Akechi does initially have that 'pursuit' desire towards unmasking and finding the PT, eventually as they become equals this kind of dynamic ends up being underutilized and it ends up being completely different by the point Akechi joins. There isn't that feeling of an eternal chase that a PT vs Detective has. And considering Akechi isn't even really a detective in the first place, it basically disappears as it gets revealed it was all a lie. Even more so in Royal, though Ren is the one 'chasing' Akechi this time, it's less of a cat and mouse chase and more so the "I can save him" type of dynamic.

 No.13858

>>13787
They could bring Akechi back and have them team up again, like how the ending at Royal hinted at a rematch. But no, Atlus hates Akechi and his fans, and the moids hate him, so he'll never get the same milking Adachi got post game.
>>13788
It seems like they're not even adding it to the remake either. Atlus doesn't want to pander to anyone but straight guys.

 No.13986

Ennead's FG character, who mind you is the rape ape extraordinaire Zeus. Worst ship and character in the entire manhwa is forgiven and shilled by the creator even though it's not the "winning" ML. Fuck this faggot and his fans and the people who still draw ship art of him and Seth. Worthless character with no point except to artificially extend the plot into nowheresville that he's a teachers pet and everything about him and Seth as a ship is disgusting, rapey, and isn't even remotely entertaining. The most banal of "ship moments" only a lesser creature not even in the Eukarya domain would call fun/cute.

I won't post his image because that's how much the character offends me



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 No.1211

there’s still hope

someone made a version of the yaoi paddle for hors d’oeuvres spreads called fujoboard.com

you can put sausages on it

 No.1212

>>1211
Let's hope. I really wish I could own a yaoi paddle T-T

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 No.11228[Reply]

As a counterpart to the hate thread, sperg about things you love.

Old thread >>13
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This type of male. I want to call this an Alucard but there's probably examples of this that are pre-Alucard.

 No.13852

>>13850
>there's probably examples of this that are pre-Alucard
bjorn andresen bishounen prototype

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>>13850
agreed. long wavy hair is so beautiful



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