/ot/ - Off-Topic

>>14479
This is retarded and neglects the fact that personality is the most important aspect of a character. I can't fucking stand furries who give characters like Scar a six pack to make him more attractive or whatever the fuck. Like how hard is it for people to understand liking a character beyond just the physical appearance, it betrays a shallow enjoyment of the material.

>>14479
As a former furfag even if furries make the distinction, most of them are incredibly hypocritical. Sure, you got some that hiss at you if you like ferals, which is how they call quadrupeds, but drawing anthros with realistic animal dicks is the norm. Paw fetishes and maw fetishes are also very common. So really, drawing a weird ass line in how they stand but loving weird animal penises just has never made sense to me. At the end of the day, I will never understand moralfag furfags.

>>14480
Yeah, and here I am thinking fuck no, his personality fits better someone lanky with a middle aged skinnyfat type of build. Ribs visible but soft and squishy in many places. They design animated characters with body shapes in mind but furries will reduce things to the same sexy dog a thousand times over. I think it's the curse of having a perpetual turn over of teen/early20s men who are too horny to need anything interesting in their porn. Don't need to try too hard to sell to them.

>>14481
Sorry I should have just said that I was thinking about it from the angle of a bunch of dudes also impose this standard on other dudes. While women always make up the majority of visual artists in fandoms, the furry fandom is predominantly male and the site admins who get mad over sexualized animals will be men. Furries are prime hypocrisy like you say, they'll treat things like it's black and white, only to have all the slippery slope fetish tendencies and start making excuses. It's the same as the antis who say it's ok when they like something because of this and that which means it doesn't count as incest/underage/beastiality/noncon, but crucify others. It's a defensive mentality to separate themselves from those they frame as the bad ones.


Anyway major disappointment that Ryland Grace was on the Tumblr Sexyman finals and not the literal rock alien.

>>14479
I mean, there's always gijinkas of him.

>>14481
Yeah, the maw (eugh) fetishes really skeeve me out. Not to get into too much furry hate, but I'm well convinced that nearly all of them have fetishes for actual animals.

>>14484
>Anyway major disappointment that Ryland Grace was on the Tumblr Sexyman finals and not the literal rock alien.
The fact that Rocky doesn't have a broadly accepted humansona as a skinny blond man ala that triangle from Gravity Falls yet is beyond me. We used to be a proper society.

>>14485
>Rocky doesn't have a broadly accepted humansona as a skinny blond man
He doesn't, but his fanon human form based on his voice actor is still way more deserving of the Sexyman title given his looks and speech are more eccentric than Ryan Gosling, and he only exists through mass fandom delusions. I feel like the degree of psychosis needed to obsess over a character design should factor in here. The true essence of a Tumblr Sexyman is when people run wild huffing merely the fumes of canon in their glee.

Have a strong desire to see Ranma fucked in the ass (while male obvs)

>>14487
Hopefully more actual fujos will get into ranma, new show is shamelessly trying to pander to fujos, they showed the arc of ranma and ryoga fighting as if they have long troubled history of rivalry which seems way more intense that it actually is lol
I don't blame them, since the straight main ship is yumeslop

>>14487
Same but with Mousse, get that man mobbed.

Toxic beetle yaoi…

Newest Re:Zero season has some good Subaru yaoibait

>>14504
re zero game prophecy of the throne is on sale right now, do you recommend it?
The scenario is written by the author himself

>>14504
I love it when male-targeted series MCs get yaoi'd. The same happened with Kirito

>>14507
Nta but iirc it doesn't have much in the way of fujobait. It does introduce characters that show up later in the main series though so there's some interesting parallel au interactions.

I'm curious. Rare pair havers: what would you say is the reason behind the rarity of your pair(s)?
>Fandom just isn't large/Content they come from is very niche
>Huge popularity gap between the characters (A is a fandom darling, B has a much smaller contingent of fans or is much more polarizing)
>Both characters are just kinda unpopular
>Something else?

>>14515
It's problematic.
It doesn't feature a whimpering twink and strong dom.
And in many cases, requires media literacy to have sauce

>>14515
>rarepair 1:
Fandom isn't large and they were cucked by canon, but they still dominate what little shipping fanworks/doujin there are in the series so I guess that's still a win.
>rarepair 2:
Comically wide popularity gap.

What ails your rare pairs?

>>14517
The pair I was thinking of when posting that definitely suffers from popularity gap, but I can't rightfully say it's "12 fics 9 pics" rare pair tier. There's leagues and leagues of difference between it and other ships with the more popular of the two, though. Fandom not being large or popularity gap are prob the most common causes for my actual rares, though.

>>14515
>relatively small fandom even during its height
>huge cast of characters to pull from, tons of potential ships
>Char A is a popular supporting character
>Char B is a barely relevant side character
Despite this the pairing had a few dedicated fans during the game's heyday, enough to even get a few doujinshi. I was too poor at the time to afford any imports, but now that I can afford them (decades later), they're probably impossible to find anymore.
This was shortly before Pixiv became popular, back when Japanese fanart was all on personal websites. I hunted down as much as I could as a retarded teenager, stumbled upon the pairing, and fell in love with it due to some great artwork.
Western side of the fandom, which was minuscule compared to JP, the pairing was completely unheard of.

>>14515
For my rarest: Both characters are popular in their own way, but they've got almost no interaction in canon, and party A has a Fandom Accepted Ship. I get why literally one other person ships them beside me.

>>14515
in my case, both characters are the most popular characters in the show but they were cucked by canon (despite them having quiet a few suggestive interactions) and they are also "problematic" because one character is villainous.
Not even the first time, i am sucker for villain x hero dynamic, kaworu and shinji and guts and griffith happen to be popular but usually in some childish fandoms that doesn't happen

>>14515
The first two except the last, since at least one of the characters is THE most popular character. The other isn't like, super unpopular but he's not as liked.
It's a bit weird because the game's popularity has nosedived fandom-wise so even the most popular ship is relatively "small". But since the game is basically dead, it's not like people will come to like them or even understand it either.
Another reason comes from the fact that the characters don't inherently interact on-screen much. It's a backstory-based ship in a sense? Where it's said that Character A met Character B in their childhood, spent some time together, shit happens and eventually Character A killed Character B but this is narrated through contextual clues rather than actually shown outright.
They have 2 age gaps, one with adult and child (when they met) and one with adult and REALLY old old man (as they grew up). So it literally can't fucking win.

>>14515
Most of my rarepairs are just that the fandom consists of three people but there's one artist in Japan posts 80 image long Pixiv logs. I had one where I was the only English speaking fan of the series and the JP fandom was about ten people at its most active but they all saw the ship as practically canon, so it didn't feel lonely or truly rare. The series was fujobait on all fronts which made it easy for everyone to suggest all these characters had an interest in this main guy, but he only showed deep affection to three of them, and only one had a whole "I thought I lost you" arc that cemented them.

For my side character rarepairs, it's usually a case of nobody else cared for the design/theme of the characters and gravitated to ones with more screentime. I like the equivalent of domestic plain janes sometimes, especially in supernatural series where their ""plain"" is actually unexplored weirdos joined at the hip. Bonus points if one is overlooked crazy and the other is constantly interpreting for him. The problem with this is people don't refer to the manga to get a good sense of the characters, they assume what they know without checking is good enough and don't analyze any further. I fucking love analyzing characters and picking out real specific behavior.

So my friend wrote me a fic about one of my rarepair and it flanderized the shit out of one of them and to this day I've not been able to tell her that she misunderstood him on a fundamental level and just kept repeating the only thing she knew. She was really happy presenting it to me for my birthday and I can't. She's an amazing writer and a BNF in some fandoms but this one fic is so wrong to me. TT__________________TT That people can see only this surface level idea of who he is proves why it's a rarepair, because his bf is the plain one and if they get him wrong how are they gonna understand his bf as anything other than a nice guy.

>>14515
The more popular character of the two has a juggernaut (at the time of release) other pairing that has more traditional yaoi dynamics. The less popular character is commonly shipped with said popular character's sister.

>>14529
Naesala fucking sucks

>>14530
I won't begrudge other people for disliking him, but I find him interesting and enjoy their dynamic despite you kind of proving why my rarepair is rare. To each their own!

An artist I follow on Xitter just posted after being radio silent for a while and uh, pic related. I'm not super hurt because she (as mentioned) was radio silent for a while but man, what an explanation to finally receive, never thought I'd experience it.

>>14548
How the fuck are you a non-american and an anti??

>>14548
Fuck this spreading antifujo rhetoric. Its so lame.

>>14548
What's D.O.J.A?

>>14552
I knew it

>>14551
The ship name (DioJona) but translated from Thai.

>becomes a fan of an anime whose popularity peaked in ~2016-2018
>checks ao3
>MCU crossover is one of most kudos'ed fics for that fandom

I just got hit with an intense wave of nostalgia being reminded of the MCU fujos. They were so ubiquitous.

In a completely non yaoi non-fiction book, I saw a passage describing an elegant older man and was absolutely struck with the need to write something about an older virgin uke and a younger aggressive seme. I can literally see the designs in my head; I need to get better at art.

>>14575
Share your vision:
>>>/oc/2

>>14575
I'm rooting for you nonna! Ojisan thirst is something that finds you…

This is a shot in the dark but does anyone know why the fudrilshi account on twitter only has natgeo in her followings list? Is it a fujoshi thing or is it just an inside joke for the account admin?

I love it when someone has a style similar to a known fandom artist but isn't afraid to draw dark topics or shunned pairings.

There are some artists with nauseatingly basic platonic hcs but stellar art styles and then their mirror comes along a few months later with just what I craved

>>14515
No fujo wants to play an eroge from 2005 where the protagonist rapes and kills women because he's homo raging.

>>14515
Oldish game in the series without an official translation and I guess shota twins aren't a popular archetype with Fire Emblem fans

>>14515
90% percent of the time my rarepairs are of side characters who just don't show up as much in the series proper.

feels kind of disingenuous but I know my OTP is true when you can bring the argument of "if X was a girl, nobody would doubt Y loved them" because for most people it's easy to dismiss 'passionate' male-male care as platonic but as soon as one of them was a woman you wouldn't even doubt it huh

>>14585
Nah, I get how you feel, since that also applies to my OTP. With each side caring too much for the other, going beyond friendship, and both of them willing to sacrifice everything, even themselves, just to save the other…
Sigh, I just know they would be the True Ending in the main story but also I know I wouldn't like them as much and, more importantly to me, if one of them was a woman, he wouldn't be written the way he was in the original story, the story would also not be the same and they wouldn't be my OTP, so I would rather it be just my BL delusions at the end.

Sorry for hijacking your post, I hope you love your OTP the way they are ♡

>>14515
Pair 1:
>Anime never adapted the full story so never got to their appearance arc, the main het couple is 99% of what the fandom cares about, and the 1% of fujos latched on to one specific ship early on due to the anime and never branched out, even those who are manga readers. They're side characters too.
Pair 2:
>Video game MC/Character ship where almost nobody cares about or plays the male MC and he's not appealing enough to most fujos to ship anyway.
Pair 3:
>A main character who no one likes and a side character with few fans, plus a big age gap.

>>14590
Who's 3? Age gaps are great.

I periodically check Girls Channel (female 2ch) and it feels way more hostile towards fujos there than LC. It's funny because like LC they have a dedicated fujo hate general and if you go into any BL/fujo general the replies always have more downvotes than upvotes. Most of the shitflinging seems to be stirred by fujo vs yume wars because any anon that shits on yumes in addition to fujos and not just the latter gets backlash kek.

>>14594
Looks like the seething jealousy is cross-cultural

>>14595
I wish I took screenshots and bookmarked the tweets, but there was a recent case of yumejoshi feeling persecuted by fujoshi because the new Utapri single shows the main guys hugging each other while looking at each other instead of looking at the camera. They were arguing over how it feels disgusting and like fujoshi who also like otome games are invading their space. Meanwhile, the character designer of their precious husbandos is a fujoshi who earned money and started her career drawing for Togainu no Chi and Lamento kek. And plenty of official art the past 15 years showed the Starish guys acting exactly like that so it's nothing new. These tweets had crazy numbers of likes and replies.

>>14596
These people are so scared of fujoshis, ignoring that most of what we get is just bait, they won't even allow themselves to enjoy the sight of two hot guys embracing each other with the security that they're only doing so for her enjoyment. Not JUST fujos like that, fujos would want them to go all the way but seeing two guys get handsy with each other is hot to many women. Their anti-fujo brainworms are ruining their enjoyment of media literally made JUST for self-inserters like them and fujos don't even have to lift a finger, incredible kek.