No.12493
>>12492Nta but the only time I would like tropes like this is if the feminine (but still male looking) character is convinced he's tricking the other man, and the man pretends to not pick up on it because he's in denial of being gay.
No.12494
>>12492I meant literally a character panicking and denying he's gay not the self-defense talking point. I like internalized homophobia, guilt, one-sided pining, and denial of feelings. Traps have like a built in segue to that when the author actually treats them like a man. I personally visually prefer when you can still tell the character is a boy like Ryo from IdolM@s but the basic idea is what's appealing to me so as long as there is another guy to bounce them off of I'm game.
>>12491 I tried so hard to get into this nonna but I think the presentation filtered me a bit, did the prologue and put it on indefinite haitus. Didn't even realize there was a trap when I started it so that caught me off guard haha.
No.12511
>>12494Gay panic is just "HAH! You were beating your meat to a boy (that looks, dresses, acts and sounds) all along" to me and it's all so tiresome.
No.12512
>>11589>>12487It's a good thing you grew out of that mentality. Some fujos, especially upthread, still really don't know better that they're pandering to moid straggots by liking traps, or they know and don't care. I especially don't understand the defense of "draw a girl call it a boy" traps, like… just say you want to flick the bean to futa.
No.12513
>>12512Why are you letting other people dictate what you like?
No.12514
>>12512>still really don't know better that they're pandering to moid straggotsI like what I like. If what I like panders to moid straggots, then so be it. I do not have to justify any of my fictional or sexual tastes.
No.12518
Well fuck, I guess I can't like shotas anymore because I'd be pandering to moids who enjoy shotas.
No.12519
>the internalized misogyny on full display
No.12520
>>12519I agree, fuck people who decide that they have to hit a certain "purity level" and only enjoy certain characters they feel are fujo or whatever the fuck. People shouldn't have to pretend to like something or hide the fact that they enjoy something.
Unrelated to this thread but I would share so much more art here if I wasn't afraid of getting ostracized for my taste in less conventually attractive men. It's a mental hangup I need to get over.
No.12556
>>12518Shotas at least look male
No.12557
>>12514Based. If people like the things that
I like then they simply have good taste. Imagine being so weak allowing your tastes to be manipulated by who you hate.
No.12906
>>12514>>12520>>12557>Why no, I'm not like other fujoshi. I don't care that I enjoy thinly disguised hetslop made by and for incel scrotes who hate me for being a woman. I especially don't care that the content I enjoy reduces my womanhood to a punchline or a fetish.You see how this makes you all sound?
No.12907
>>12906You sound like a very well-adjusted person
No.12910
>>12907At least I'm into men that look, dress, act and sound like men. And unlike the growing number of handmaidens here, I stick to my principles and don't consume male gaze slop, which trapshit (yes, even the ones drawn by women) falls under.
No.12911
>>12906And yet the trap in my post is from a shoujo series.
I don't understand why you felt the need to necro reply, it comes off as insecurity, why are you letting other people choose what you can and can't enjoy? If you independently hate traps that's fine, but people shouldn't stop liking somwthing because they feel it's "pandering to incels" or whatever the fuck. Most popular series shipping-wise and shounen.
No.12912
>>12911Seriously. Men online give us enough shit for being fujoshi, the last thing we need is insecure miserable radfems shitting on other fujos for not passing a moral purity test. Fujochan isn't a shouting match over who hates men more.
No.12916
>>12915It's an 80s series so it's clearly not intended for them. The effeminate man who looks like a woman is a stock character since mythological times.
But ignore that, guess I can't ship Naruto, Marvel, Jojo, BnHA, kibgdom Hearts, SnK, One Piece, Berserk, DC, and so on since they're aimed at men. Fuck off, people aren't defending men they're annoyed at you sperging out and policing other peoples tastes.
No.12917
>>12916You could have chosen better series with less ugly moid characters in them
No.12918
>>12917The series were picked because they all have huge numbers on Ao3 but I'll bite one last time and add Death Note, Black Butler, HxH, Code Geass, xxxholic, Saint Seiya, Haikyuu and literally any sports series.
All aimed at men all popular with fujos, all with conventionaly attractive men. I can't imagine being so self-concious you have to be afraid of enjoying something aimed primarily at a male demographic.
No.12919
>>12918>black butler>xxxholic>male targetedYou’re insane
No.12921
>>12919I think she assumes just because they were put in seinen magazines means they are clearly for men. No Japanese male takes CLAMP seriously enough to be "for men."
No.12922
>>12919Shonen and seinen respectively. If it matters that they're by female authors why doesn't the same apply here?
>>12915You're also not addressing the rest, are you going to claim Death Note fans are fake fujos because Misa's treatment is sexist?
>>12921Idk, Chobits is very clearly aimed at men and enjoyed by them.
No.12924
>>12922They sure as hell didn't understand the themes of Chobits though
No.12925
>>12922Everyone on earth knows g fantasy is only a shonen mag in name kek, and nothing by CLAMP is for men. Everything else you listed is general audience by any standard. Trapshit however is not gen audience, it’s moidslop that lives alongside ecchi harem and the like.
No.12926
There's always been trapshit for both men and women, its pretty silly to make a fuss about women being into it considering how much bl/gacha/game has crossdressing content.
No.13044
>>12918Mid dudes with zero fujobait between them
>>12919>>12921>>12922>>12925If it were at all intended for women, it wouldn't be a shounen or seinen work. The misogyny within shounen far outweighs whatever fujobait is supposedly there.
>>12926There's a difference. "Trapshit" for women at least look like men, but they're still the least popular because women want to look at men. Trapshit for men doesn't bother making them look male, they're there for the "you're hard for a GUY" punchline.
No.13048
>>13044>zeroI wouldn't say so
No.13055
>>13044>women want to look at men.Are you aware that some women like other women?
No.13649
>>13645lc hates everything
No.13650
>>13645>meant to appeal to pedophiles and gay menfunny that they say that because I had seen a thread on twitter no less yesterday or so about how Astolfo in canon is not even remotely characterized in the way fanon has flanderized him for years, he's treated like a proper character in Apocrypha and sure he's still pretty flamboyant but his image has been tarnished by honestly mostly westernfags who use him for the "NTR meme" that only one artist did or to make him le femboy monster can cock XD and nothing else. I feel neutral about Astolfo but it must suck to have a character who simply happens to be effeminate and is legitimately treated normally in it's canon (which isn't often the case with trap charactes) only to be the most flanderized thing ever outside of it
No.13652
>>13645They’re correct to hate him tbh
No.13653
>>13650Source material doesn't mean much anymore.
No.13655
>>13652>>13654More examples of the
>irrational hatredfrom the OP.
No.13684
>>13655Are they wrong? He's not even a he, just some gender confused gremlin with the mentality and body of a child like every other "draw a girl call it a boy".
No.13754
>>10754 years late but
Based
No.13819
>>13754"30 fanarts to make you the coolest pedophile in the Discord group chat"
No.13820
>>13819I’m not even into traps but girl stfu
No.13821
>>13820"I'm totally not into traps, I just don't see anything wrong with women beince forced to put up with male gaze gooner slop that isn't even popular among them and even actively reduces their existence to some dated down low punchline."
No.13825
>>13821You sound chronically miserable
No.13826
>>13821"How dare people like what I don't like."
No.13827
>>13821What if I want to see bawls in skirts?
No.13828
>>13821nona lowkey agree with you but fujos here just don't want to be morally fagged around, they already got plenty of moral lectures for other reasons.