No.10089
>>10052I've been thinking lately that I'm more annoyed by the handmaidens than the actual gendies. From a gendie PoV I can understand that they want to see and normalise themselves and they'll just put a trans flag in their bio so I can avoid them. Meanwhile there's an artist called Bramblefix whose art I'll see around sometimes cause other people like it and I have a personal vendetta against her cause she put a girl in the background of a drawing that was supposed to be a guy orgy in the woods. Literally just being an annoying handmaiden pushing propaganda in the background and ruining art I would've loved otherwise.
No.10094
>>10089I looked her up and she seems like an 'anything goes' kind of artist.
But what is this handmaidens thing? From what I get in your post it sounds like something I would also hate as much as you do.
No.10521
I don't see a problem if they aren't being total retards. probably jst cause im "woke" and have transgender friends.
No.10522
>>10521The only problem is FTMshit being mixed together with regular BL instead of people taking steps to keep it separate and suggesting anyone does this will get you death threats because you don't see trans BL as 'true BL'.
But I guess I feel the same about hetbend BL still being put under the fujo tag on pixiv and lumped under BL in doujin events.
No.10523
>>10522This. At least yurifags mark futashit as separate and any attempts at trying to normalize not tagging futa is frowned upon. But in the bl side, surprise vagina will be untagged because of the author and barely anyone cares. And if you voice dissent, people come out of the woodworks to cry transphobia and how normal people don’t tag for dick in their bl.
No.10524
>>10521I don't want to feel obligated to play along with any Aiden's gay man LARP. I don't want to walk on eggshells when Aiden claims to be a real gay man and that her opinions on BL / whatever are more important than a random straight woman's opinions. I don't want to feel obligated to validate TIFs in fandom when they feel sad and insecure about having a vagina.
I want to filter trans shit out and not have to deal with TIFs arguing that it's not heterosexual. I don't want people expecting me to write or draw transgender headcanons. It would be nice just to come out and say that I don't care without being attacked.
I view trans stuff as a weird secular pseudo-religion. I don't hate trans-identified people, but I also don't want to play along. The same way I have Mormon acquaintances but don't want to mindlessly affirm weird shit about John Smith. I think the ideology is wrong in the sense that it's simply not true (everyone has an internal gender identity) like how other religions aren't true. But there's also additional harm in the sexism of the ideology and how the trans community encourages bodily harm. I at least don't want to engage in my hobby spaces.
No.10525
>>10524I feel the same but I actively hate religion so same goes for the trans cult.
No.10528
>>10523lol that's not true at all. I was in a Yuri discord sever a couple years ago that was kinda decimated by internal discourse because someone said it was forbidden to warn/tag for mtf stuff because doing so was transphobic. I remember some people saying they prefer the tag to exist because they had trauma and the mod telling them to basically deal with it and get fucked lmaooo
Yuri fandoms are way more politicizes than BL fandoms, believe it or not.
>>10524Nonna, not to bring discourse here but transexuality represents an actual distinct neurological phenotype. I agree that many self identified trans people are larpers because it's trendy or whatever, but there is a scientific background to actual transexuality, it's not a belief to the people actually suffering from it (which are only a fraction of the people who id as trans).
No.10529
>>10524Yeah u def aren't obligated to do anything. I despise when they act like their opinions are above regular womens, it's a clear show of jealousy towards BL characters since they have something FTMs don't. thankfully my FTM friends aren't braindead and make the distinction between FTM content and smth like cuntboy for example. all proship/pro tagging system as well. Different people exist everywhere in every space ig
No.10530
>>10528Was the discord majority men or majority women because majority-men spaces draw the distinction more unless they're MtFs
No.10532
>>10528>scientific background to actual transexualitynta but it was a classified as a mental illness some time ago i think? anyway transtrenders or not none of us are still required to care
No.10533
>>10532Gender dysphoria is a disorder, being transexual isn't. But being transexual is not a delusion, their brains are actually wired in a way where they expect the body to look a certain way, and that's where the distress comes from (dysphoria).
I mean you don't have to care, and I don't say this to mean people should be posting untagged PiV in BL tags lmao. But I think it's good to keep in mind actual transexual people are not delusional larpers, they are struggling with a serious disorder. So it's not like a religious belief, and it's good to have compassion in that sense, regardless of weirdos in fandom spaces. Just my two cents.
No.10534
>>10532>>10533Wasn't this the truscum or something medical debacle of some years ago? That you can only be trans if you do experience dysphoria or not iirc. I think most people nowadays consider "transness" literally just a feeling.
I dunno, I'd imagine that if I was a FtM tranny I wouldn't fucking want to see a vagina in BL because I'd be reminded I have one that I don't want? But most TIFs don't feel dysphoric enough for that, and do the whole PIV BL so they can feel "confident" about "being a boy with a pussy"
No.10535
>>10534>I'd imagine that if I was a FtM tranny I wouldn't fucking want to see a vagina in BL because I'd be reminded I have one that I don't wantI always thought so too. If you have dysphoria and feel uncomfortable with your body parts why would you want to see them and be reminded of them?
Feels like it's a fetish for a lot of these people.
No.10537
>>10535IIRC doesn't T also make PIV more painful/difficult in real life as well? Also pretty sure someone on hormones can't get pregnant/can't carry which defeats the purpose of a lot of this stuff being written just for 'mpreg' breeding kink lol
There are definitely many people who just want to write cuntboy fetish but think it has to be labeled trans similar to futas beng labeled intersex despite not being a possible RL thing.
No.10541
>>10540I'm not sure I agree with her about the root of why so many TIFs hate fujos despite consuming BL themselves. But I agree they should be mocked. Since this person is a TIF like you said she has cognitive dissonance so the most she can do to interpret their anti-fujo behavior is attributing to jealousy (which I'm sure is definitely a motivator of why they transition but not of why they hate fujos). She unconsciously realizes TIFs and fujos are in the same category but she won't allow herself to think that because thinking females have stuff in common with other females is Bad(tm) and their NLOG behavior is just plain absurd.
No.10542
>>10541she’s a self proclaimed fudanshi and proshipper with most of her profile is dedicated to BL. I think another better reasoning to why most TIFs hate fujoshis could be because we won’t cater to them and consume content centring them, but what she said didn’t feel entirely implausible to me. I really am curious about the root cause of it Lol
No.10544
>>10540Oh hey, that’s my mutual….. They tweet a lot about believing that anti fujo ftms are jealous of gay bio males, I agree to an extent I guess. Though I feel even if they weren’t anti fujos they’d still be jealous of bio males.. No?
No.10545
>>10543Seconding, luff shou.
No.10546
>>10540Seemingly unpopular but I kind of agree here. (may be biased, I’m a korean gal) transgenders have this bizarre need to be desired and with how east asians are fetishised I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case. If it were fuckin idk indians or africans they’d wanna be them. whatever is most desirable
No.10791
I was looking through my followers on Twitter earlier and I realized about 90% of them were he/hims or they/thems. Of course it's a BL centric account so they're all fujos. When did this begin to plague the fanbase so badly? I can't believe it's something organic when I look at the sheer numbers.
No.10792
>>10791My assumption is that for a lot of them it's some form of body insecurity or attention seeking behaviour and in the 2000s they would've developed an eating disorder or adopted an emo fashion style instead.
No.10793
>>10791It's the same for me. She/hers or simply no pronouns in profile seem like the minority in the English-speaking side of my fandom.
>>10792Pretty much this.
No.11033
>>9954They'll burn you on a stake if you say Kris is a boy, but at the same time, they misgender Ralsei because he's feminine. I get this place doesn't like traps, but…
>>10052Gendies turned me away from cuntboys because of how obnoxious they are about it and how downright… ugly their art can bw
No.11049
>>11004I think it's hilarious how people insist he is 100% gender neutral and any other interpretation is bigoted, but then they are always praising Kris in a dress or in feminine clothing as subversive. A few months back they started drawing fanart of feminine Kris as a way to dunk on people precisely because even they themselves see him as a boy whether they admit it or not, which is why fem clothing feels subversive. It's also why Susie/Kris is so popular, because it's a de facto het ship
Nothings gonna change the fact that people see him as just some guy, just like no amount of raging and wank is gonna change the fact that Chara/Frisk was a yuri ship. People just get more mad at boy Kris interpretations because women liking anything is bad, but men with their loliyuri ship is totally fine lolol
No.11063
>>11049>but then they are always praising Kris in a dress or in feminine clothing as subversivelike the other anon said, they really don't treat him like they would a female character in fandom
No.12363
>>12362>boys run the riot tranny shitwut
>picrelso literally het?
No.12364
>>12363Yes and no, I just checked a few pages of the first volumes in a store long ago and the MC thinks that just because she's a lesbian and she's a tomboy that means she's a brave and stunning transboi.
No.12816
I hate he/theys so fucking much. Everyone fucking knows you are a fucking woman you fucking moron. No one's going to take part in this retarded LARP with you so you can pretend to have Higher Yaoi Gay Man Knowledge because you cut your hair above your shoulders and wore a baggy shirt.
No.13299
>>12816Two callout google docs came out recently in one of my fandoms about someone who did the ~true gay male understanding of this character~ thing but I always figured it was an actual gay man because I'm used to TiFs openly displaying a trans flag in their name or bio and this one didn't. But now it turns out it was not a woman-hating gay man but a manipulative woman-hating bpd trainwreck of a woman larping as a man who hilariously enough would call her 'transmasc nonbinary' partner a woman multiple times but then chimp out and suicide-bait when misgendered herself. If there's one thing I learned from this it's that no matter how much Aidens shit up our fandoms, they make themselves and each other miserable by being alive and we can win by just being well-adjusted people who enjoy our BL.
No.13301
>>13299I didn't need the flags–cis gays only play roe/hroth/highlanders lol.
No.13305
>>13299>transmasc nonbinary partner TIF/TIF relationships wherein they're both larping as gay yaoiz was really common when I used Tumblr (bc everyone there was a 15 year old edating kinnie), I'm surprised it's still a thing now. Unless they're edaters too, then that makes sense. I always assume those types aren't actually attracted to each other because both parties are painfully heterosexual, it's just that they can't date irl because of autismo. Plus most straight guys irl have no interest in roleplaying Soukoku so they have to settle for other gaydens.
No.13344
>>13305In this case they did meet up IRL and the google doc has photos that show how they literally just look like a lesbian couple.
No.13375
>>13299>If there's one thing I learned from this it's that no matter how much Aidens shit up our fandoms, they make themselves and each other miserable by being alive and we can win by just being well-adjusted people who enjoy our BL.This. The best way to win is to not play at all. I just ignore these people and don't interact ever.
No.13387
>>13386It's likely the creator of historical femboy just trolling but woke troons seethed, making big deal of it.
No.14844
>>14843Look at all these women
No.14846
>>14843Not everything needs a subreddit esp a manga that only has 20 chapters, but also expected since the only people I've personally seen obsessed with this series (keep in mind I said obsessed and not just normal like) are puriteens (who are on average more gender-identified) and TIFs who are convinced it's """relatable""" and an """accurate representation of growing up gay""", instead of just liking it for being cute BL.
No.14855
>>14843that's a lot of self-hating women.
No.14861
That image in the OP is very funny, because you can cause huge histrionic meltdowns by just calling her 'female'.
No.14886
>>14846Still hurts knowing said puriteens and pooners chased the author away from possibly ever completing it tho because she dared draw NSFW and shotacon.
No.14894
>>14886wasn't there also some milquetoast drama involving some teacher drama?
No.14953
>>14846Personally I indeed consider MC relatable which was the main reason for why I liked that show. Most anime characters are either too genki and social for my taste or insecure in such an unrealistic, forced way (think of most retarded otaku shows) that they're annoying. Nakamura has just the right mix of self-doubting loner behavior and optimism to be relatable if you're a loner yourself IMO.
Not an actual fan of it though so I never googled art, let alone fandoms for it, but I don't consider the ability to relate to such characters a lie or a sign of transness.
No.14954
>>14953AYRT, sorry I didn't mean to dismiss those who relate to Nakamura just those who took relating to him as a sign that they are homosexual males. Even relating to a trans character is not a sign of being a tranny, it's all just fiction
No.14956
>>14954It's okay, you are probably right anyway. I like the show but I am not a fan aka fanatic so I don't really count. When I heard of the fans who attacked the author I was too disgusted to care about the fanbase. It's a shame, because we don't get many canon gay series to begin with and when we casually do the mass is either outright ignoring it or it attracts these types of fans who do a better job at getting rid of gay than conservatives do.
It's ironic that gay series are usually hated by the same two groups despite that they claim to belong to opposites sites of the political spectrum because the alleged pro-gay/pro-left side is allergic of gay sexuality and demand that m/m series stay sanitized and asexual which is the exact problem with "gayness" that I thought we already overcame decades ago.
No.14970
>>14956>the fans who attacked the author It wasn't fans, it was a bunch of south american kpop accounts that didn't post anything anime/manga. The usual suspects who decide I don't have a horse in this race but I'm going to sabotage it for everyone anyway.