No.7400
Have you ever encounterd a fic from the POV of the writer's OC who is an observer to the couples romance?
No.7401
>>7400Sorry, I couldn't help but to think about The Great Gatsby.
No.7402
>>7400Closest I got was a fic where the Enterprise was observing Kirk and Spock's relationship.
No.7405
>>7400yeah. I’ve even seeked out fics from supporting character’s POV
No.7406
>>7405>yeah.Which franchise?
No.7407
>>7400Yes very very often, especially for HaikYuu or any fandom that has two characters that are meant to be famous and have to keep the relationship on the down low.
No.7408
>>7407Now you mention it I've read several social media fics where people use their friend's pfps as random NPC who discuss witnessing the couple and speculate on their relationship.
No.7409
>>7408Kekkk yeah or they reuse tweets/posts from their friends over the IRL guys they stan (usually these people are into kpop too). Your reply reminded me that I actually think the media 3rd person POV angle of a relationship can be interesting, I've read one for Hannibal (both involving OCs + canon charaters since Freddie is a journalist) and it was quite good, though they're more "infamous" than famous lmao. Some people go to the lengths of writing faux articles (those are called epistolary fics I think?) and I like them. I am surprised some anons haven't come across 3rd person OC fics before as I feel like especially for more taboo relationships they can be quite common because people like writing the disgust of a third party at witnessing their debauchery.
No.7415
>>7409I honestly never encountered that type of fic. Is it more common in live action series? Is there a specific tag for it on AO3?
No.7416
>>7409>reuse tweets/posts from their friendsHuh. Never seen that before, usually it's fandom in-jokes like someone mistaking a character for someone else or making one of the NPCs obsessed with a wildly inaccurate interpretation as a gag ("x is a mean strict top, look how y flinches from his touch" but the guy is actually the submissive bottom), but then I've only read ones for manga and novel series.
>>7415I don't do live action so I don't know about those but checking the ones I've read they all have the really broad tag "social media". Looking at the other fics in that tag, the ones where the summary looks like a chat exchange seem to be the ones using the templates instead of just being a story where social media is involved.
No.7427
>>7415I don't think it's more common in LA? If anything it's just a fandom thing, I've seen practically every popular series have one at some point. Mixed media fics (letters, diary entires, etc.) are likely to be tagged as epistolary, letters, journal entry, diary, etc.
>>7416Makes sense I know the Haikyuu!! ones I read were more like that (to my chagrin), but I know for Homestuck & any fandom that had a lot of KPOP/idol fans their friends in the comment section would be like "did you use my tweet???? lmao".
It's always a nice feeling to have an author who writes a ship nearly perfectly and she's made several of that couple. I really like the bittersweetness that is imbued in nearly every fic is not overstated or done clichely but simply matter of fact. It's really easy to make this couple seem happily-ever-after but they have so much left unspoken b/w them & so many issues as a result of their childhood + separation that I'm glad she's exploring that in a way that's not OOC.
No.7463
>modern-day AU
>it's either school settings or coffee shop
EVERY.FUCKING.TIME.
WRITE SOMETHING ELSE FOR A CHANGE
No.7472
>>7471Inaccurate although I understand the sentiment. Ao3 is infinite space with sane moderation. I'd only start worrying if weirdos start getting elected to the board (unlikely).
No.7473
>>7471it didn't really happen like this. ao3 was created because of ff.net shitting the bed moderation wise. wattpad is both older than ao3 and was largely it's own island catering to a slightly different audience up until recent years where there has been more toe-stepping between the sites.
No.7493
>>7492>heThat's definitely a tif. The quirky squee inotation clocks her so hard. The queers are incapable of writing well.
>but if half the fic's tags is the author super quirkily talking to themselves about random bullshit I'm going to assume they aren't a good writer.Same. I can smell the bad writing. Honestly it’s a great example of aposematism
No.7495
>>7492I shouldn't have looked and I was way too curious but
how do people write fanfiction for this game kek No.7496
>>7492>WAY to much researchIf this was the only silly tag it would still be enough to forewarn me. That being said, pretty much all of this could have gone into a note at the beginning. Why put it in tags? I don't understand the thought process. Do they not know what tags are for?
No.7497
>>7496I think this stems from tumblr tagging culture. It was common for people to tag their own thoughts when reblogging something or even just in their own regular posts as a bonus, and they took that habit with them to AO3. Despite the site being mostly irrelevant now a lot of modern fandom culture is heavily influenced by 2010s Tumblr.
No.7498
>>7492>i loooooove science sooo much guysssss>tif trannylol as always
No.7499
>>7495Your spoiler intrigued me and looked it up as well as the fandom. The cover alone tells me everything I need to know.
No.7500
>>7492>author is autofellating in the tagsLol
No.7501
>>7492The way people wrote in tags on tumblr instead of typing proper blog posts and replies was already annoying and I know that's an unpopular opinion, but doing this on AO3 is a new low. The author's notes section is literally made for this.
No.7503
I'm at the point of cuntboy fatigue where I'm grateful when I see a fandom/pairing has a "formal" "[X] has a vagina" that people usually tag for & use after dealing with a fandom where the author would either "forget" to tag it and then get passive aggressive when people in the comments would point it out (and she would later tag it) or do it with the most retarded technique possible " X has a pussy" "X has a vagina" "X w/ a pussy" "X w/ a vagina" and make NO attempt to stay consistent even when one author makes multiple CB works.
No.7504
>>7503I've blacklisted as many CB/tranny-related terms as possible and thought I was finally free from it until I got jumpscared with "X has a vulva". Genuinely made me so pissed kek
No.7511
>>7503At this point I think it's intentional. They're exhibitionists, and they hate getting called out for showing their fetishes in people's faces.
No.7513
>>7504At least they finally gave her labia. Rarely in my unfortunate encounters with these works do they mention anything about female genitals besides the hole & it leaking. Even the clit gets neglected, if you're gonna have pussy in your yaoi at least treat it with the respect it deserves!!!
>>7511It definitely is, mind you in the case I was talking about she was an edgelord that wrote nearly constantly about this one character getting raped, but only when he had a pussy, in fics when he had a dick suddenly he was treated 1000% better (meanwhile in canon he's been sexually assaulted but in those fics the assault happens off screen when he has a pp). It's basically a misogyny fetish they hate having to tag and they'll try & gaslight you into treating just like their other fics despite them exaggerating the seme/uke sexual dimorphism in them in every way but #woke.
No.7519
>>7513It definitely is a misogyny fetish, it goes hand-in-hand with general feminization kink stuff. I'm not gonna moralfag about it because at the end of the day people can write about what they want yada yada, but it is ridiculous when those people are in denial about what it is. It's no coincidence the character that they assign as the bottom (and tbh, bottoming itself in this context, is a "female trait") is feminized, impregnated, and is the focus of humiliation and degradation because of said elements.
No.7520
>>7519Yeah I agree too people can do what they want but I am so sick of the way vaginas are treated in so much of media it's a shame it's encroaching on yaoi too. Legit the CB is just a hole, that's it, how the fuck does torture gangbang yaoi seem to show greater consideration to a whumpee uke's pleasure than "fluffy" CB? It feels like some people are either growing out of yaoi but still like the community of it and can't let go, or like that other anon said they feel guilty so they essentially do a genital-swap (and imo often uke-ification) to still explore that interest of theirs. Then they also have a bizarre habit of making the actual women futas who also join in on raping the CB.
No.7521
>>7520>making the actual women futas who also join in on raping the CBThis has always annoyed me. There's a similar phenomenon where het ships get popular but people want to be subversive about it so they make the woman the futa and male a cuntboy because it's progressive if the woman is in a dominant position or whatever. But in all these scenarios, no matter what, it's the character with the vagina being penetrated and degraded. That's the only element people will never let go of whether it's het, cuntboy 'yaoi', or futa 'yuri'.
No.7523
>>7513… was it Alucard Castlevania?
No.7524
>>7521Yeah it's funny how this situation has made me actually like "she pegs him" people because at least they're not making any subtle implications about female people. Which is a shame because don't people get bored? This one CB artist I see just draws the same thing over & over again with the "uke" (whose masc in canon) built like a One Piece character just getting nutted in repeatedly or giving head, not doing anything else it's indistinguishable from het porn.
>>7523Nah
Till from Alien Stage No.7531
>>7524>spoilerkekkk I'm the first anon and I was thinking about Luka and Hyuna from ALNST in my reply. I'm not really a fan of it, just seen it from time to time but it's insane to me how 99% of the porn for that fandom is PIV when only one ship is het
No.7532
>>7531Yeah they are an infamous example of this, you can't criticize futa/CB w/o accusations of transphobia but suddenly everyone lets it slide making Hyuna, the tan character, the rapist/dominant/pining one when in canon that has been repeatedly shown to be Luka, the blonde pale skinned guy. I don't really look at it either I just have seen a godawful amount of art of Luka being pregnant.
>99% of the porn for that fandom is PIVIt's insane and at least the CN/JP put content warnings but the West refuse to put ANYTHING on there. One artist got vagued for seme/uke-ifying IvTi (and imo the real complaint was for her CB but you can't even call that shit out anymore) and her fans relentlessly defended her so she double-downed on it. Funniest thing is she used to draw Till normally and people were posting art from 2 years ago to now and how much she uke-ified him kek. I feel bad for the yuri fans because this has hit him them especially hard, I have not seen an actually single lesbian nsfw work besides genderbent IvTi (usually as t4t tho). Even looking for TiiV doesn't fix this as they've started making Ivan a CB too.
No.7533
>>7532>you can't criticize futa/CB w/o accusations of transphobia but suddenly everyone lets it slide making Hyuna, the tan character, the rapist/dominant/pining one when in canon that has been repeatedly shown to be Luka, the blonde pale skinned guypicrel strikes again
>I have not seen an actually single lesbian nsfw work besides genderbent IvTi (usually as t4t tho)I will never understand how this shit doesn't get called out for homophobia. Guess the gays don't matter because the trannies are the most special and most oppressed. Fuck what those dirty sodomites think, troons feel super sad about hating their bodies so they should do whatever they want always.
No.7534
>>7533This pic reminds me of Hannah and Alois lol
No.7535
>>7533It's not even just troons atp which is sad, edgelords also do it because they now have a socially acceptable way to do their "problematic" fetishes in female-majority spaces. There was this one MiSu artist who did get hate for making Mizi have a penis but again, people called them transphobic and relentlessly defended the author so she doubled-down on it lmao it's such a horrible trend. Every single time someone complains they get hit with the misogyny accusation as if the CB's treatment in that slop isn't worse than hetcoom.
>>7534They remind me of the Captive Prince couple, and I'm pretty sure an anon used the same image months ago when we were talking about them kek.
No.7536
>>7535>Captive Princebtw are the books any good?
No.7538
>>7537I feel the same way. The main couple's relationship at first resembles the meme image but over time it's made clear both characters have more nuance to them.
No.7638
Fanfics from the seme's POV feel so good.
No.7639
>>7638Impeccable taste, nona!
No.7644
More Potter content on AO3:
>The Big Bang, Baby Challenge was created in 2005 to incentivize the creation of more canon-based novel-length Harry/Draco fics in the wake of The Order of the Phoenix, and was twice repeated following the publishing of The Half-Blood Prince, and The Deathly Hallows. Over the Big Bang, Baby Challenge’s run, dozens of invite-only fanartists contributed to richly illustrating fics which met the challenge’s minimum 50,000 word count. The Big Bang, Baby Challenge is the origin of the name and style of the Big Bang type of fic/art exchanges. The archive is being imported in order to preserve the works and ensure their availability to future fans.>We will begin importing works from The Big Bang, Baby Challenge to AO3 after September. However, the import may not take place for several months or even years, depending on the size and complexity of the archive. Creators are always welcome to import their own works and add them to the collection in the meantime.https://archiveofourown.org/admin_posts/36131 No.7656
>>7644As expected, the comments on this post are a bit lmao.
I remember reading fics on the Big Bang, Baby Challenge website in my teens and early adulthood. Some of my favorite HD fics are from these events, actually. I still have the website bookmarked in my browser! It's great they're all being archived (although I think a good deal of them are already on AO3, no?) but there's something so nostalgic and quaint about the website, too. I hope Aja and co keep the website up if possible.